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Rapidly changing demographics

HT: Marty Schmidt

Europe a Muslim continent in a few decades?
Can culture really be definied as narrowly as by population?
How might President Obama’s speech in Cairo to the Muslim world shape things?
Where does Christ fit into all of this?

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  • Joseph Wright June 14, 2009, 9:07 am

    1. Yes, Europe a muslim nation in a few decades. But that is not the point. The point is that the statistics are revealing the ongoing death of a people. If it wasn’t Muslims replacing them, it would be somebody else. For that death the European peoples should mourn and wail. They have been handed over to uncleanness of heart to despise the children for which Christ died, and to not desire the Living Stones of His Church. They have sewn the seeds of their own destruction through worldwide slavery, oppression and now the destruction of their own seed.
    2. Culture is not the point at all. European culture is death, and it has been for centuries. The demographics reveal plainly that it is in full fruit. If the immigrants absorb the European culture it will be the death of them. The real point of the demographics is this: a people that are dying out. A formerly Christian people that are systematically destroying themselves, and it is only the side story is that their lands are being given to another.
    3. Barack Obama’s election has, I believe, a healing impact on aspects of America for it’s racist past. But it also sends a signal to the Muslim world that they are winning. It increases their hope in us changing and coming into submission to them.
    4. The most important thing to understand is what Christ is doing. He has already won the victory. He is drawing closer to culmination of His Joy that was set before Him by which He endured the cross: the revealing of His children of glory! The adopted ones! Christ is seated in the heavens looking toward the ultimate Father’s Day! He will stand in the midst of the assembly and declare “Here I am and the children you have given me.” and He will not be ashamed to call us His brethren from every tribe tongue and nationality. Are not His brothers those who are like Him bear fruit that will last, and echo His heart? How many men today in Christendom are looking forward when they too can say “Here I am and the children you have given me.” No, we want 1.3 kids, and no more. All of creation groans in earnest expectation that the sons of God be revealed. We groan because we really want that new truck. Until our hearts are turned by Him on this matter, we are under judgement. Why is this so important to Him?
    Remember, before He died on the Cross and ascended to Heaven, Christ was born in a manger, and before that conceived of the Holy Spirit. So too with all mankind. We must be born, and we have our cross to pick up and die daily, we must be born again of the Holy Spirit.
    When we are proud and think of ourselves more than we ought we are capable of doing many evil things against God. Consider the institution of slavery, it’s wicked preference of one people over others. Consider God’s judgement on the slave masters of Europe. Their pride has turned inward in it’s destruction so that they think themselves more important even than their seed.
    When the present is deemed more important than the future, the future is in trouble. Declining birth rates, increased debt, sexual perversion, depression, suicide and drug use are just some of the natural fruit of such pride. Preventing birth, living for self and resisting the work of the Holy Spirit in our lives we are at war with the work of Christ.
    Europe is lost and facing the death of it’s peoples around the world. It is experiencing the judgement of God for it’s war against the work of Christ. Entrusted with the Gospel, it has instead shamed His name, murdered and despised His seed making war to this day against His work to bring many children to glory from every tribe tongue and nationality. Only a mighty awakening and repentance of this great sin of war against God and His seed for which Christ died will bring hope for a renewal of this people. Perhaps the non-Europeans will intercede for us! Please awaken us by your mercy and for your glory oh God! That our children also may rise up and praise you!

  • Lon June 15, 2009, 10:24 am

    Thanks for the thorough post Joseph, I still hold out hope for Europe and it’s people, the world is definitely changing, but God’s still in the business of redemption…

  • Joseph Wright June 15, 2009, 11:48 am

    Me too Lon. Our hope is secure in the certainty of God’s promises. He will have people without number from every tribe tongue and nationality. That said nothing less than the turning of hearts of fathers to their children will break the cycle of decline in Europeans. I believe it is not far off.

    The curses last for 3 or 4 generations.

    His faithfulness to 1,000.


  • Lon June 15, 2009, 9:42 pm

    Thanks Joseph… good reminder – of the impact we make in this life, and the unending impact God makes.

  • thekingpin68 June 17, 2009, 6:20 pm

    Excellent video and topic, Lon. My Aunt sent it to me and it was discussed below as well, if this interests.


    • Lon June 19, 2009, 11:37 am

      awesome, will check it out!

  • Johnny Laird June 22, 2009, 7:49 am

    Hi Lon

    Really interested to know how you define Europe – and it’s culture. Do you see it as one homogenous unit?

    There’s a fair argument that there is no such thing, and that there are many & varied cultures across the European continent. Some would say, for example – that the US has a much bigger influence – culturally – on the UK (referred to erroneously as “England” in the vid) than Europe.

    On top of that population movement, and demographics are not the only defining factors for a “culture”. It’s much more complex than that.

    Also, I’m not sure of the source of the video, but I would tend to be very careful about it’s use and propagation. The weighty tone and ominous tone set by the voice over seems to me to be quite divisive in itself, setting up Christianity vs Islam in a kind of ideologically war. We have to guard against the demonisation of our Islamic brothers & sisters.

    I say all this, not to be critical, but rather to offer some sense of balance to the post.


  • Johnny Laird June 22, 2009, 8:11 am

    That’ll be “ideological” – typing too fast! :-)))

  • Lon June 22, 2009, 8:59 am

    Hey Johnny, I totally hear you, and of course I don’t see it as a homogenous unit, and obviously the video’s intent is to stir things up – i agree, cueing the scary music doesn’t help with reconciliation one bit!

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