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Can the church become post-racial

I totally connect with this conversation.

It aches me incessantly how divided the church remains… but I’m totally stoked about the opportunities and the journey ahead.

What do we need to start doing today to get this right?

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  • Jeff Smyth April 16, 2009, 4:08 pm

    The concept of this video is valuable and needs to be heard. However, it’s a typical USAmerican video where they are still dealing with the black-white issue. They are not dealing with the MOSAIC culture that most of the rest of the world, especially in Canada, lives with.
    In the Greater Toronto Area the struggle for the church that has been fracturing has been the culturally ethnic-specific churches. Those churches that were started by immigrants who have then had kids and their kids are now Canadian are living in a faith community that is ethnic-specific. Those churches are starting to die b/c their young adults are moving on to other faith communities.
    No I’m the son of an Irish immigrant so I understand this some what, however, this is a bigger topic that can’t be addressed in just a comment.
    Here’s the deal, we are missing the ethnic-specifics that can enhance our faith communities. The problem is that we are segregated right now and that does not foster healing or unity.
    The other ethnic-specific group that we always miss in Canada are the Native Canadians and French Canadians.
    Again, bigger topic for more that just a comment and this is really near and dear to my heart at this time.

  • Johnny Laird April 17, 2009, 10:11 am

    Hey Lon

    Looking forward to taking a few minutes to check out the vid, as this is a subject close to my heart.

    Interesting that Jeff picks up the notion of a USAmerican concept of race, which is somewhat different to the way people deal with it in other parts of the world.

    Grace & peace


  • Lon April 20, 2009, 3:17 pm

    good thoughts guys, i feel left out just about everytime the issue’s reduced to black and white.

    the church is way behind on this one. I know folks tend to assume USAmerica has more of a melting pot approach as opposed to a mosaic… but is this true in there churches as well? I’d love to hear from some Americans.

    With the immigrant issue, I know many American churches are 2-3 generations ahead, at least with Asians, and have been branching out beyond ethnic enclaves.

    I know some of my peers in the chinese church have moved onto ‘white’ churches, feeling that it might be some how more multicultural – though I’m not sure it is.

    plus i think there’s a big difference between multi-ethnic and multi-cultural

    interestingly another friend just told me he’d like to go to a multicultural church, but fears he wouldn’t have a place to serve there as in an ethnic church.

  • zaya April 23, 2009, 10:10 am

    brothers and sisters,

    it’s great that we are having such dialogue. unfortunately, they are usually happening through blogs, twitters, and facebook messages and not enough on conference platforms and sermon format mediums.

    Jeff is right about widening the discourse to involve first nation brother and sisters and french-Canadians; after reading much on the Chinese head tax and the native residential school, I’m afraid that the church is not being enough of a catalyst to not only embrace (as explained by Miroslav Volf), but to cultivate a place and a medium of reconciliation.

    as we spoke just not too long ago, lon…

    i believe the american narrative is so much more complex than simply black & white as many of you have already noted but also it involves as we speak borders and immigration issues; all the while in canada, specifically in quebec the discourse in the last 2 years have hovered around the meaning of being quebecois. but it seems to me like the discourse in the church has mostly remained static.

    all in all, and what the video had clearly outlined was that the church and the practice of the christian religion in the western hemisphere are unfortunately lagging behind in terms of creating a mosaic and third culture space; and people are sojourning elsewhere to revive their souls.


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