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	<title>Comments on: Ordination Part 2&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Lon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for the encouraging words bro... it&#039;s just odd how it can be helpful at times to be a part of a system you barely believe in...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the encouraging words bro&#8230; it&#8217;s just odd how it can be helpful at times to be a part of a system you barely believe in&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: brad grinnen</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad grinnen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lon,

should you really bother?  can&#039;t really answer that one for you.  love your branding though.

i went through the process.  it took years.  i enjoyed the process...the accountability of it all... the self-examination and the examination of the community.  good good good.

however, i don&#039;t see the biblical precedent.  yes i see moses and the priests.  yes i see paul and timothy as well as others.  yes the whole &#039;set apart&#039; argument.  however, i don&#039;t believe this is for a certain few any longer.  i don&#039;t believe Christ said, &quot;go and make disciples, baptizing them in my name...if and only if you are ordained.&quot;

too many lines between the dirty L word, &quot;laity&quot;, and the dirty O word, &quot;ordained&quot;.  i only pull my card out to get into prisons to visit inmates, to get into hospitals to visit patients, and when i marry or bury.

if i lost my ordination tomorrow, which i could because of my work with the marginalized, i know Christ wouldn&#039;t be hesitant to use me.  not over my lack of ordination anyway.  

beyond scriptures, i believe we are in a new day which needs less deliniation.

peace bro,

brad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lon,</p>
<p>should you really bother?  can&#8217;t really answer that one for you.  love your branding though.</p>
<p>i went through the process.  it took years.  i enjoyed the process&#8230;the accountability of it all&#8230; the self-examination and the examination of the community.  good good good.</p>
<p>however, i don&#8217;t see the biblical precedent.  yes i see moses and the priests.  yes i see paul and timothy as well as others.  yes the whole &#8216;set apart&#8217; argument.  however, i don&#8217;t believe this is for a certain few any longer.  i don&#8217;t believe Christ said, &#8220;go and make disciples, baptizing them in my name&#8230;if and only if you are ordained.&#8221;</p>
<p>too many lines between the dirty L word, &#8220;laity&#8221;, and the dirty O word, &#8220;ordained&#8221;.  i only pull my card out to get into prisons to visit inmates, to get into hospitals to visit patients, and when i marry or bury.</p>
<p>if i lost my ordination tomorrow, which i could because of my work with the marginalized, i know Christ wouldn&#8217;t be hesitant to use me.  not over my lack of ordination anyway.  </p>
<p>beyond scriptures, i believe we are in a new day which needs less deliniation.</p>
<p>peace bro,</p>
<p>brad</p>
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