Comments on: Church Leadership II http://solarcrash.com/2007/06/church-leadership-ii/ Creativity, Faith, and Culture in the City Sun, 29 Jan 2012 22:06:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lon http://solarcrash.com/2007/06/church-leadership-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-1795 Lon Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:32:08 +0000 http://solarcrash.com/2007/06/29/church-leadership-ii/#comment-1795 Hey Yu, I just checked out Pernell's posts on it. That's a bit of what I was trying to get at with my diagram. Whether it's traditional or APEST or whatever I think we're all positionally only a single step from Christ. I think those who vouch for the flattened model are idealizing this truth though... God has 'orders' of angels and of creation even, I don't see any reason why there wouldn't be different roles, and even some form of hierarchy in the church. it's definitely a bit of both, which is probably why the hybrid models are getting traction. Sometimes i feel like we prefer the flattened model because we want to abdicate the responsibility God has given to us on behalf of others... Hey Yu, I just checked out Pernell’s posts on it. That’s a bit of what I was trying to get at with my diagram. Whether it’s traditional or APEST or whatever I think we’re all positionally only a single step from Christ.

I think those who vouch for the flattened model are idealizing this truth though… God has ‘orders’ of angels and of creation even, I don’t see any reason why there wouldn’t be different roles, and even some form of hierarchy in the church.

it’s definitely a bit of both, which is probably why the hybrid models are getting traction.

Sometimes i feel like we prefer the flattened model because we want to abdicate the responsibility God has given to us on behalf of others…

]]> By: Yu http://solarcrash.com/2007/06/church-leadership-ii/comment-page-1/#comment-1794 Yu Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:50:41 +0000 http://solarcrash.com/2007/06/29/church-leadership-ii/#comment-1794 hey man, what do you think about Pernell's comments about the 'myth of flattened leadership'? Esp the following up comments with hybrid models (ie. star and the spider) or chaordic leadership (which I find very fascinating). Interesting that this flattened vs. hierarchical model of leadership in the church is debatable in Pauline scholarship. One of the commenters on Pernell's blog pointed to Dunn's book - theology of Paul the apostle (which I have!), so will continue the discussion when I've read a bit more hey man,

what do you think about Pernell’s comments about the ‘myth of flattened leadership’? Esp the following up comments with hybrid models (ie. star and the spider) or chaordic leadership (which I find very fascinating).

Interesting that this flattened vs. hierarchical model of leadership in the church is debatable in Pauline scholarship. One of the commenters on Pernell’s blog pointed to Dunn’s book – theology of Paul the apostle (which I have!), so will continue the discussion when I’ve read a bit more

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